windows vista build 5297 supports efi bios

hi,all: windows vista build 5297 supports efi bios?

I am sure you made a typo, so you really meant 5270, no, it currently does not support EFI, that has not been implemented yet. Please check back in the next CTP expected this month, no guarantee. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "Tigerliu" wrote in message

hi,all: windows vista build 5297 supports efi bios?

No,not a type error,now Windows Vista 5308 has come out! i am not sure whether it supports efi bios.
"Andre Da Costa" дÈëÓʼþ

I am sure you made a typo, so you really meant 5270, no, it currently does not support EFI, that has not been implemented yet. Please check back in the next CTP expected this month, no guarantee. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "Tigerliu" wrote in message hi,all: windows vista build 5297 supports efi bios?

Not for Bet testers, MSDN or TechNet. Ask the source you received Build 5308. Is it a legitimate source? Or more likely pirate source? 5308 is not a legitimate build to discuss here.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Tigerliu" wrote in message

No,not a type error,now Windows Vista 5308 has come out! i am not sure whether it supports efi bios.

No,not a type error,now Windows Vista 5308 has come out! i am not sure whether it supports efi bios.

The only people who would have that build are beta testers and they shouldn't be talking.
Tom Lake

Its either released to TAP or Windows for Vendors, they have their own technical groups, if you are a part of one them, its best to pose the question there. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "Tigerliu" wrote in message

No,not a type error,now Windows Vista 5308 has come out! i am not sure whether it supports efi bios.
"Andre Da Costa" дÈëÓʼþ I am sure you made a typo, so you really meant 5270, no, it currently does not support EFI, that has not been implemented yet. Please check back in the next CTP expected this month, no guarantee. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "Tigerliu" wrote in message hi,all: windows vista build 5297 supports efi bios?

Nope, that's a recognised internal build, and it's not even a stable build at that.
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Definately not, I've had word that it's just "another run of the day" build - nothing very new, nothing very special, but the reason it's not stable is because Windows Defender had problems starting as a service on startup... something something... point is, just another daily build :o)
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Do you even know what Windows for Vendors is Zack? -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

Definately not, I've had word that it's just "another run of the day" build - nothing very new, nothing very special, but the reason it's not stable is because Windows Defender had problems starting as a service on startup... something something... point is, just another daily build :o)
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I know what TAP is, as I'm in the Office 12 TAP beta. However I can easily make a guess that "Windows for Vendors" is a beta version or pre-beta 2 version of Windows Vista that gets released to certain contracted manufacturers or hardware manufacturers to try and adapt their software or hardware to match the new version of Windows.
All I'm saying Andre, is that this 5297 and 5308 builds... are just run of the day builds before everyone goes home to bed for the night :o) Expect Beta 2 to be something around 5350 or so, or so I'm told... hinted :op
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No Zack, you are in the Technical Beta for Office 12, not Technology Adoption Program (TAP). If I were you, I would avoid speculation, no one knows what the build number for the February CTP is or will be, it would be a way lot harder to guess or assume the BETA 2 Build number. Build numbers really don't matter anyway, its the quality. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

I know what TAP is, as I'm in the Office 12 TAP beta. However I can easily make a guess that "Windows for Vendors" is a beta version or pre-beta 2 version of Windows Vista that gets released to certain contracted manufacturers or hardware manufacturers to try and adapt their software or hardware to match the new version of Windows.
All I'm saying Andre, is that this 5297 and 5308 builds... are just run of the day builds before everyone goes home to bed for the night :o) Expect Beta 2 to be something around 5350 or so, or so I'm told... hinted :op
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Zach,
I am not sure where you heard your info, and I wouldn't trust everything they say. 5308 is not just an everyday build....if you head over to Neowin, or if you follow the Vista NG close enough you will see that multiple builds of 5308 have been circulating (5308.1,5308.2,5308.3, etc) this means that they have forked a build for stabalization. This also means that they are driving this build number to something of quality to deliver to testers. Now it doesn't mean that is what we will get because they could hit a reset, but it certainly isn't another run of the mill build.
You do however correctly point out that this build isn't beta2, but more likely a monthly CTP. If you head over to Paul T's site you will see that the current "guess" on Beta2 (though it may not be called Beta2) is April.
-- Josh
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

I know what TAP is, as I'm in the Office 12 TAP beta. However I can easily make a guess that "Windows for Vendors" is a beta version or pre-beta 2 version of Windows Vista that gets released to certain contracted manufacturers or hardware manufacturers to try and adapt their software or hardware to match the new version of Windows.
All I'm saying Andre, is that this 5297 and 5308 builds... are just run of the day builds before everyone goes home to bed for the night :o) Expect Beta 2 to be something around 5350 or so, or so I'm told... hinted :op
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You make a lot of assumptions. You seem to base them at least partly on neowin and Paul's site, neither of which I give any credibility.
Find reliable sites to source your information next time, those two are not reliable.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Josh" wrote in message

Zach,
I am not sure where you heard your info, and I wouldn't trust everything they say. 5308 is not just an everyday build....if you head over to Neowin, or if you follow the Vista NG close enough you will see that multiple builds of 5308 have been circulating (5308.1,5308.2,5308.3, etc) this means that they have forked a build for stabalization. This also means that they are driving this build number to something of quality to deliver to testers. Now it doesn't mean that is what we will get because they could hit a reset, but it certainly isn't another run of the mill build.
You do however correctly point out that this build isn't beta2, but more likely a monthly CTP. If you head over to Paul T's site you will see that the current "guess" on Beta2 (though it may not be called Beta2) is April.
-- Josh

You say multiple builds of 5308 are circulating. Surely you don't mean they're available for download?
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Josh" wrote in message

Zach,
I am not sure where you heard your info, and I wouldn't trust everything they say. 5308 is not just an everyday build....if you head over to Neowin, or if you follow the Vista NG close enough you will see that multiple builds of 5308 have been circulating (5308.1,5308.2,5308.3, etc) this means that they have forked a build for stabalization. This also means that they are driving this build number to something of quality to deliver to testers. Now it doesn't mean that is what we will get because they could hit a reset, but it certainly isn't another run of the mill build.
You do however correctly point out that this build isn't beta2, but more likely a monthly CTP. If you head over to Paul T's site you will see that the current "guess" on Beta2 (though it may not be called Beta2) is April.
-- Josh
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message I know what TAP is, as I'm in the Office 12 TAP beta. However I can easily make a guess that "Windows for Vendors" is a beta version or pre-beta 2 version of Windows Vista that gets released to certain contracted manufacturers or hardware manufacturers to try and adapt their software or hardware to match the new version of Windows.
All I'm saying Andre, is that this 5297 and 5308 builds... are just run of the day builds before everyone goes home to bed for the night :o) Expect Beta 2 to be something around 5350 or so, or so I'm told... hinted :op
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!

No, but I would never look anyway. This is from tracking the posts by Microsoft employees in the Newsgroups.
-- Josh
"NLWard" wrote in message

You say multiple builds of 5308 are circulating. Surely you don't mean they're available for download?
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Josh" wrote in message Zach,
I am not sure where you heard your info, and I wouldn't trust everything they say. 5308 is not just an everyday build....if you head over to Neowin, or if you follow the Vista NG close enough you will see that multiple builds of 5308 have been circulating (5308.1,5308.2,5308.3, etc) this means that they have forked a build for stabalization. This also means that they are driving this build number to something of quality to deliver to testers. Now it doesn't mean that is what we will get because they could hit a reset, but it certainly isn't another run of the mill build.
You do however correctly point out that this build isn't beta2, but more likely a monthly CTP. If you head over to Paul T's site you will see that the current "guess" on Beta2 (though it may not be called Beta2) is April.
-- Josh
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message I know what TAP is, as I'm in the Office 12 TAP beta. However I can easily make a guess that "Windows for Vendors" is a beta version or pre-beta 2 version of Windows Vista that gets released to certain contracted manufacturers or hardware manufacturers to try and adapt their software or hardware to match the new version of Windows.
All I'm saying Andre, is that this 5297 and 5308 builds... are just run of the day builds before everyone goes home to bed for the night :o) Expect Beta 2 to be something around 5350 or so, or so I'm told... hinted :op
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!

The most compeling information for this "assumption" comes from the following of Microsoft Employee posts. See when you post it tells everyone what build you are using by noting the newsreader you are posting from.
This newsreader information (inadvertaly) gives away the build of Windows you are using.
for example you are using Windows XP.. X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670
Windows Vista will look like this X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 7.00.5270.9
See that .9 at the end, yeah that means there were 9 revision to 5270 done. That my good Mr. Jones means they compiled that build 9 time, which they don't do for your daily builds. For your daily build they would make 5270 - 5271.
-- Josh

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message

You make a lot of assumptions. You seem to base them at least partly on neowin and Paul's site, neither of which I give any credibility.
Find reliable sites to source your information next time, those two are not reliable.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Josh" wrote in message Zach,
I am not sure where you heard your info, and I wouldn't trust everything they say. 5308 is not just an everyday build....if you head over to Neowin, or if you follow the Vista NG close enough you will see that multiple builds of 5308 have been circulating (5308.1,5308.2,5308.3, etc) this means that they have forked a build for stabalization. This also means that they are driving this build number to something of quality to deliver to testers. Now it doesn't mean that is what we will get because they could hit a reset, but it certainly isn't another run of the mill build.
You do however correctly point out that this build isn't beta2, but more likely a monthly CTP. If you head over to Paul T's site you will see that the current "guess" on Beta2 (though it may not be called Beta2) is April.
-- Josh

I doubt it is inadvertent, more likely it is simply not relevant and thus no reason to conceal. The wide variety of builds Microsoft uses internally tells nothing other than those builds are used internally. Anything else is assumption and nothing more.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Josh" wrote in message

The most compeling information for this "assumption" comes from the following of Microsoft Employee posts. See when you post it tells everyone what build you are using by noting the newsreader you are posting from.
This newsreader information (inadvertaly) gives away the build of Windows you are using.
for example you are using Windows XP.. X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670
Windows Vista will look like this X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 7.00.5270.9
See that .9 at the end, yeah that means there were 9 revision to 5270 done. That my good Mr. Jones means they compiled that build 9 time, which they don't do for your daily builds. For your daily build they would make 5270 - 5271.
-- Josh

OK, thanks. Just wondering.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Josh" wrote in message

No, but I would never look anyway. This is from tracking the posts by Microsoft employees in the Newsgroups.
-- Josh
"NLWard" wrote in message You say multiple builds of 5308 are circulating. Surely you don't mean they're available for download?
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Josh" wrote in message Zach,
I am not sure where you heard your info, and I wouldn't trust everything they say. 5308 is not just an everyday build....if you head over to Neowin, or if you follow the Vista NG close enough you will see that multiple builds of 5308 have been circulating (5308.1,5308.2,5308.3, etc) this means that they have forked a build for stabalization. This also means that they are driving this build number to something of quality to deliver to testers. Now it doesn't mean that is what we will get because they could hit a reset, but it certainly isn't another run of the mill build.
You do however correctly point out that this build isn't beta2, but more likely a monthly CTP. If you head over to Paul T's site you will see that the current "guess" on Beta2 (though it may not be called Beta2) is April.
-- Josh
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message I know what TAP is, as I'm in the Office 12 TAP beta. However I can easily make a guess that "Windows for Vendors" is a beta version or pre-beta 2 version of Windows Vista that gets released to certain contracted manufacturers or hardware manufacturers to try and adapt their software or hardware to match the new version of Windows.
All I'm saying Andre, is that this 5297 and 5308 builds... are just run of the day builds before everyone goes home to bed for the night :o) Expect Beta 2 to be something around 5350 or so, or so I'm told... hinted :op
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!